*19*
17:36
Ian McNamara.
ianmcn@hotpop.com
Peace upon you.
 These days I am trying to stay away from screens which  people using  aliases instead of real name.
You may be aware of recent incidents in Yahoo  clubs and its following changes.  Spending 3 years time in that arena may could lead some truth seekers to right path GW.  I was not aware of such response by you up to today   You may did not like my sharp side of words.  Quran is not joke and  game book.  Quran should be respected over anything else in this illusion.  Now we have proof that Quran is authored by GOD ALONE.You said that to read Quran and understand it do not be a mathematician to know Probability. That is exactly you have done in your claim and is not easy for me to understand it.  Miracle is easy and simple and sdo not need any mathematics knowledge as far knowing +-*/.   Publishing such file that do not match on what GOD has challenged if is not fraud could be wrong. You may raised in family that believe in one of GOD’s scripture and you accept it and believe that is authored by GOD.  An atheist like me could not go with Parent’s belief and I had to examine everyone to find the fact.   Took me 60 years to find the truth. Finally somebody could show me Sign of that invisible creator as falling apple from tree for Sign of invisible gravity.   Rashad was inspired and now  we find that he was the one that  GOD made covenant with his prophets in 3:81.  You wrote that you do not know Arabic and have tried to response in GOD’s Challenge  in English.
Now here is a very simple one. No Arabic. All numbers.  Please read the responses of mathematicians in links.  Would like to help them to find the solution?
Peace.
March 26-2002  Bahman

From:
       "Joell, Kyle" <Kyle.Joell@Nextel.com>  | Block address
    To:
       "'ynineteen@yahoo.com'" <ynineteen@yahoo.com>
 Subject:
       FW: [OQS] A Mathematical Sura Like It
  Date:
       Mon, 16 Oct 2000 12:04:14 -0400

Peace be upon you brother,

I have not had time to post omn internet lately, inshaAllah I will be
there soon. In the mean time, here is something very interesting for you to
ponder.

Dear Brother.
You do not have to learn Arabic to witness MIracle. There are many other science and technology solid links that even those that rae not 100% sure about Rashad assignment by GOD can not avoid it. Here you can  witness many Science-Miracle solid links which do not not need Arabic knowledge.  The web master is a member  of this  forum board
Witnessing Miracle can be forced to any body.    There many brothers that have lot of knowledge in many fields but they are not ready to see the Miracle and there are many that do posses lot of knowledge but can understand and see Miracle.
The first group are truth seekers and when they are asked for proof of QURAN they have a lot of difficulties to persuade others with their philosopher words.
The second group explain the Mathematical structure and ask if rejecter CAN PRODUCE A SURA LIKE THESE

I received your e-mail with following the CLAIM   for meeting   challenge   imitating Mathematical Structure of Quran for one
The person claiming such lie could be a mocker, uniformed, or charlatan.
I appreciate that your search could result to expose fraud and cheats of enemies of ISLAM.
Please send this copy instead of this person confusing claim to others other way you will be responsible too in the Day of Judgment.
When this character  is not able to Imitate GOD's WORDS Mathematical Structure then he starts to analyze  his GREAT  work by probability and not PROBABILITY   He is trying to divert reader to his own world of cheat and fraud like his partners doing in their discussion.
I have written my response to this person and you witness what is going on.

Any submitter familiar with Mieacle could see your obviouse attempt to show that Miracle is an invention of human.

 Let us check waht you have done:

You have  ignored requirement for 3, 4, 5 ,6....15, 16,17, 19. this means that you could preform only  item 2 item of 19 condition 2 and 18
You are not honest  when you say:  "I do not understand arabic."
and later you state:
" have read almost all of the research on the number 19 which
has been made available to me. **I have never seen any sura**
which fulfills the challenge which submission.org has put
forward
Is not that true that Miracle is based  on Arabic TEXT and reader to do complete search needs some Arabic knowledge.?
When you do not Arabic then you should try to imitate one of those discoveries not linking to Arabic text other way the result will the mess that  we witness.
 
 

     Please produce a sura like it ,that has the following criteria ,that is similar to some of what we see in the
     Quran. You can write it in either Arabic, English or any other language of your choice. Arabic will meet all the
     criteria as it is the language of the Quran, however using any other language to try to achieve all the rest of the
     criteria will be acceptable. This means the challenge is open to all the human beings in all the languages:
A.E.H.M.R.S.T.U.Y.
     (1) The sura should be made up of, say, 19 sentences. Yes
     (2) The total number of words is a multiple of 19. Yes
     (3) The word God  and two of his attributes should be used each, say, eleven times. NO
     (4)The word messenger should be used five times. NO
     (5) The word law should be used seven times. NO
     (6) The number of the letter "Alif", "A" should be a multiple of 19. Yes
     (7) The number of the letter "L" should be a multiple of 19.         No
     (8) The number of the letter "K", should be a multiple of 19.         No
     (9) The number of the letter "H", should be a multiple of 19.         No.
     (10) The number of the letter "S", should be a multiple of 19.        Yes
     (11)The number of the letter "R", should be a multiple of 19.         Yes
     (12)The number of the letter "Y", should be a multiple of 19.        Yes
     (13)The number of the letter "M", should be a multiple of 19.       Yes
     (14)The number of the letter "N", should be a multiple of 19.        No
     (15)The number of the letter "Q", should be a multiple of 19.       No
     (16) If you choose to use numbers inside your statements, their total. when added together, should be a multiple
     of 19. If you are not using numbers then substitute this factor by manipulating the numbers in such  a way that if
     you multiply the number of the words in the third verse (sentence) by the number of its letters, the total should
     be a multiple of 19. NO
     (17) While reading your statements, the reader would close his/her lips, pronouncing your words, 19 times or a
     multiple of nineteen. ( as in Sura 1 in the Quran).NO
     (18) If you add the gematrical value of all the letters you use in your writing, they should be a multiple of 19.
     The gematrical values of the Arabic Alphabets are known and can be found on our web site. The gematrical
     value of the English Alphabets or any other language can be assumed as A=1, B=2, C= 3...etc., if you choose
     to write it in English or any other language. Let us know these values when you are done.
     (19) These 19 sentences should make complete and perfect laws or advise for moral correction and should be
     grammatically and linguistically sound. They should be judges as being excellent in composition by people who
     speak the language. NO

By: Ian McNamara <ianmcn@hotpop.com>

Peace be upon you,

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Introduction

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In the name of Allah, most benevolent, ever-merciful.

This is my response to the 19-code believers to produce a sura
which is mathematically coded in a manner similar to that of
the Qur'an's claimed code.

To create a sura which is mathematically coded, I have based
my work on Dr. Rashad Khalifa's translation of sura 96. The
work has been done in english, as I do not understand arabic.

The work is entirely accurate to my knowledge.

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***THIS IS NOT A CHALLENGE TO THE DIVINITY OF THE QUR'AN!***

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This sura was not divinely inspired.

This work does not disprove the divinity of the Qur'an, it
is a response to the challenge to reproduce the claimed
19-code.

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Modified version of Rashad Khalifa's translation of the Qur'an

                     Sura 96 - Al-'Alaq

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THE FOLLOWING IS NOT TO BE USED AS A TRANSLATION OF THE QUR'AN

     NOR IS IT A CHALLENGE TO THE DIVINITY OF THE QUR'AN

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Sura 96 - A.E.H.M.R.S.T.U.Y. (or The Embryo [Al-'Alaq])

For Allah, the Greatest*

A.E.H.M.R.S.T.U.Y.*

 1. Read, in worship of your Lord, who made you

 2. He made you from an embryo

 3. Read, and your Lord, the Most Praised

 4. Does teach by the pencil

 5. God teaches man what they never knew

 6. Indeed, the humans stray

 7. If they finally become rich

 8. To your god is the ultimate destiny

 9. Have you sons seen the one who wants to keep

10. Us from our prayers?

11. Better for him is to follow the guidance

12. Or to promote righteousness

13. If he disbelieves you and runs away

14. Does he realize that Allah perceives it?

15. Indeed, unless he refrains, we will take him by his forelock

16. A forelock that is disbelieving and sinful

17. Let him call to his helpers

18. We will then summons the 19** guardians of Hell

19. You shall refrain from obeying him; fall prostrate, to move
    higher

Note:
* Unnumbered verse
The initials are printed at the beginning mostly for your in
counting, the verse was composed without the initals being
printed inside of the chapter, and submission.org's challenge
said only to use letters multiple of 19 times, inserting the
initials into the chapter actually makes composing the chapter
easier, so I left them out. I could also see arguements over
whether or not initials should be included in letter counts.

** 19 may or may not be included depending on whether or not
   you want to include it in the word and or letter count. As
   we see in 74:29-30 the number of guardians of Hell is 19.

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             The Letter Count of the Initials

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| Verse | A | E | H | M | R | S | T | U | Y |
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|   1   | 2 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
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|   2   | 2 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   3   | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   4   | 1 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   5   | 3 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   6   | 2 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   7   | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   8   | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 2 | 2 |
--------------------------------------------|
|   9   | 2 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  10   | 1 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 4 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  11   | 1 | 4 | 2 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 4 | 1 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  12   | 0 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  13   | 3 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 2 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  14   | 4 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  15   | 2 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  16   | 3 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  17   | 1 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  18   | 2 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 2 | 2 | 0 |
--------------------------------------------|
|  19   | 4 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 6 | 2 | 3 | 1 | 2 |
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
| Total | 38| 76| 38| 19| 38| 38| 38| 19| 19|
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                   Gematrical Values Table

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| A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10| 20| 30| 40|
|===================================================|
| N | O | P | Q | R | S | T | U | V | W | X | Y | Z |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 50| 60| 70| 80| 90|100|200|300|400|500|600|700|800|
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This is almost exactly the same as the Arabic Gematrical
values table (There are two less letters in the english
alphabet, hence two less in the table)

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                        The Facts

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Facts about the Basmalah:

  Number of letters: 19 (19x1)
 

Facts about the Sura:

  Number of Verses: 19 (19x1)

  Number of Words: 133 (19x7)

  Number of letters: 570 (19x30)

  "Gematrical"* Value of all letters: 51243 (19x2697)

  Sum of the numbers in the sura: 19 (19x1)
 

Facts related to the verse 18**:

  Verse number + Sura Number: 18+96 = 114 (19x6)

  Sum of 'initials':
    A + E + H + M + R + S + T + U + Y
  = 2 + 4 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 3 + 2 + 2 + 0
  = 19 (19x1)
 

Facts related to the initials:

  Sum of the gematrical value:
    A + E + H + M + R + S + T + U + Y
  = 1 + 5 + 8 + 40 + 90 + 100 + 200 + 300 + 700
  = 1444 (19x19x4)
 

Individual Letter Counts (Divisible by 19):
1. A: 38 (19x2)
2. E: 76 (19x4)
3. H: 38 (19x2)
4. M: 19 (19x1)
5. R: 38 (19x2)
6. S: 38 (19x2)
7. T: 38 (19x2)
8. U: 19 (19x1)
9. Y: 19 (19x1)

Note:
Basmalah not included in the counts except where it is
specifically mentioned.
The number 19 is not included in the word or letter counts as
it is a number.

*: See table above

**: This either confirms the position of the number 19, or
    is emphasising that the number of guardians of Hell is
    19.

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                  Probability Calcuations

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The probability that a random number is divisible by the
number X is 1/X. Therefore, the probability of a number being
divisible by 19 is 1/19.

Calculations:

The probability of the number of times which a letter occurs
being divisible by 19 is 1 in 19.

Therefore the probability of nine different letters each
occuring a number of times which is divisible by 19 is:

1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19
= 1/19^9
= 1 / 322,687,697,800
= 1 in 322,687,697,800

Probability of the number of letters in the Basmalah being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the number of verses in a chapter being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the number of letters in a chapter being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the number of words in a chapter being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the gematrical value of a chapter being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the sum of the numbers in a chapter being
divisible by 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the sum of the verse number and chapter
number being a multiple of 19 for the only verse which
contains (or refers to something which is related to) the
number 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the number 19 appearing in a verse where
the number of initialed letters is a multiple of 19: 1 in 19

Probability of the gematrical value of the initials being
a multiple of 19x19 (19^2): 1 in 19^2 (1 in 361)
 

Probability of all these facts occuring together in one
chapter:

1/19^9x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19x1/19^2
= 1/19^19
= 1 in 1,978,419,656,000,000,000,000,000

Note:
1. Numbers given as accurately as my calculator would allow

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              The Challenge - "A Sura Like It"

          http://www.submission.org/challenge.html

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This website posted a challenge which stated that the sura
challenge had nothing to do with the literary quality of
the Qur'an, but rather the mathematical code. They then
proceeded to challenge anyone to fulfill these challenges,
I assume to prove the non-miracle stature of the 19-code.

Submission.com's requirements for a sura like it, and my
response.

(1) The sura should be made up of, say, 19 sentences.

My sura has 19 verses

(2) The total number of words is a multiple of 19.

My sura has 133 words which is 19x7.

(3) The word God and two of his attributes should be used
    each, say, eleven times.

I have used the word Allah, and Most Praised the same
amount of times (1). The original sura used God and
Most Exalted once. This part of the challenge has nothing
to do with 19.

BACK

(4) The word messenger should be used five times.
(5) The word law should be used seven times.

These are arbitrary numbers which have nothing to do
with the number 19. Why the inclusion of
requirements which have nothing to do with 19?

(6..15) The number of the letter "X", "X" should be a
        multiple of 19.

My sura has nine letters which occur a multiple of 19 times.
The initials in the Qur'an do not each have an individual
count divisible by 19, Dr. Khalifa used a variety of methods
to come up with 19, the counts themselves, adding the initials,
adding the initial counts to other suras with the same
initials, adding the initial counts to other suras with
different initials. There is no sura which has more than
five initials, my sura has nine.

BACK

(16) If you choose to use numbers inside your statements,
     their total. when added together, should be a multiple
     of 19. If you are not using numbers then substitute this
     factor by manipulating the numbers in such a way that if
     you multiply the number of the words in the third verse
     (sentence) by the number of its letters, the total should
     be a multiple of 19.

My sura uses one number, 19. It is not unrelated either, as
we see from 74:29-30 the number of guardians of Hell is 19.

'19' is not counted as a word as it is a number. Even if you
object to this, remove '19' from my sura and use the alternate
fact below.

Alternatly:

The sum of the initials in the verse where the sura number
plus the verse number is a multiple of 19 (Which actually
relates to the number 19 unlike submission.org's challenge to
use verse 3) is a multiple of 19.

(17) While reading your statements, the reader would close
     his/her lips, pronouncing your words, 19 times or a
     multiple of nineteen. ( as in Sura 1 in the Quran).

Not done, I didn't try to get this fact, use one of the
alternate facts listed in the next section to compensate
for this. This fact is not true for every sura in the
Qur'an either.

BACK

(18) If you add the gematrical value of all the letters you
     use in your writing, they should be a multiple of 19.
     The gematrical values of the Arabic Alphabets are known
     and can be found on our web site. The gematrical value of
     the English Alphabets or any other language can be
     assumed as A=1, B=2, C= 3...etc., if you choose to write
     it in English or any other language. Let us know these
     values when you are done.

The sum of the gematrical values of all the letters in the
sura is 51243 which is 2697x19.

I used an almost identical version to the arabic table (There
are two less letters in the english alphabet and this is the
only difference) so no complaints about arbitrary numbers.
See the table above for my table of gematrical values.

(19) These 19 sentences should make complete and perfect laws
     or advise for moral correction and should be
     grammatically and linguistically sound. They should be
     judges as being excellent in composition by people who
     speak the language.

I do not see what this has to do with the mathematical
challenge. The information is close enough in meaning to the
original translation of the Qur'an, and the sura makes sense.

Submission.org's page containing the challege criticized those
who complained about someone responding to the Qur'ans
challenge on literary grounds. They then continued said that
this kind of response "only reflects their ignorance with the
Quran and the miracle of the Quran". Yet now they themselves
are falling back on the literary quality ofthe work?

BACK

(See webpage http://www.submission.org/challenge.html)

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      Facts Which Are In My Sura, Which Are Not Part Of
              www.submission.org's Challenge.

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I have fulfilled the challenge, those which you may deem as
'incomplete' or not satisfactory, can be made up for by these
facts. I am sure that there are more, the facts presented
in this document are the ones I tried to create, I am sure
that there are more that could be found if someone was
willing to take some time to look for them.

1. Word count a multiple of 19
2. Number 19 appears (or is referred to) in the only verse
   where the verse number plus the sura number is a multiple
   of 19
3. The sum of the 'initials' in this verse (18) is also a
   multiple of 19. (Used above as an alternative)
4. The sum of the gematrical values of the initials is
   a multiple of 19, and this number is also a multiple of
   19. IE Sum of gematrical values = 1444 = 19x19x4

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       Problems With www.submission.org's Challenge

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I have read almost all of the research on the number 19 which
has been made available to me. I have never seen any sura
which fulfills the challenge which submission.org has put
forward.

Now, if every sura in the Qur'an cannot fulfil all the
requirements above, why challenge someone to meet all of
these challenges? God states that even if all the humans and
jinns joined together they could not even produce something
like it. So why challenge us to produce something superior
to the Qur'an?

To my knowledge, there is no sura which fulfills all of the
challenges above. For example, challenges 6-15, require
that the letter count of each of 10 different letters is a
multiple of 19. Contrast this fact however to the Qur'anic
initials which Dr. Khalifa and his followers claimed were
an integral part of the 19-code.

These challenges (6-15) are, I assume, to mimic the initials
usage. However, if you read appendix 1 from Dr. Khalifa's
translation of the Qur'an, you will see that the initialed
letters do not occur in multiples of 19. Dr. Khalifa used
different methods to come up with multiples of 19. The
methods Dr. Khalifa used increased the probability of
finding multiples of 19. For example adding the letter
counts of each initial in each verse together and adding
it to the other suras with similar initials.

No sura has more than five initials, and even in these
five initials suras, the amount of times each initialed
letter occurs is _not_ a multiple of 19. Contrast this
to the challenge from submission.org who challenge to
have 10 different letters occuring a multiple of nineteen
times for each letter. I managed to get 9 letters in a very
short time, the initials of my sura are far superior to
anything presented in Dr. Khalifa's appendixes. Most of
Dr. Khalifa's occurances have a probability of 1 in 19,
the probability of my sura is 1/19^9.

Hence we can see that the Qur'an itself fails the Sura
challenge put forward by submission.org.

Notes on challenge 16:

This challenge asks that:
"If you are not using numbers then substitute this
 factor by manipulating the numbers in such a way that if
 you multiply the number of the words in the third verse
 (sentence) by the number of its letters, the total should
 be a multiple of 19."

The number 19 is a prime number. You cannot multiply two
numbers together to get 19. As such, multiplying the letter
and word count together will not yield a multiple of 19. This
challenge should have been to get either the word or letter
count to a multiple of 19.

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  How Would The Mathematical Structure Of My Sura Have Been
                      Interpreted?

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Well, following the analysis of the numbers would most likely
have been made if these facts were part of the analysis of
the Qur'an.

The initials are divinely protected due to the sum of
their gematrical value being a multiple of 19 squared. All of
the letters in the sura which occur a multiple of 19 times
are counted as initials, so there is no arbitrary choice in
this.

The initials ensure that the initialed letters cannot be
added or subtracted from the verse.

The number of verses is a multiple of 19, so adding or
subtracting verses is defended against.

The fact that the total number of letters in the sura is
a multiple of 19, means that non-initial letters cannot be
added or subtracted easily.

Futhermore, the word count being a multiple of 19 means that
to add anymore non-initial letters, would require adding
a multiple of 19 words, this would no doubt also throw the
initial counts out. This also ensures that words cannot be
added easily.

The sum of the gematrical value of the entire sura ensures
that letters cannot be interchanged, as because each letter
has a different value, substituting a P for a Q would mean
that the gematrical value of the sura would no longer be
a multiple of 19.

Emphasis on the number 19, the number 19 is mentioned
(or referred to) in the only verse where the sum of the
verse number and sura number is a multiple of 19.

Also, the number of initialed letters which appear in this
verse is a multiple of 19 further emphasizing the importance
of 19.

The number of letters in the Basmalah protects it from having
letters added or subtracted from it.

What can actually be changed in the sura? This sura is
protected by a mathematical structure based on the number 19.

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Possible discrepencies, or problems

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All of the possible descrepencies in my sura that I can think
of is as follows:

1. The initials are not printed in a numbered verse.
2. The number 19 is counted as a number, and not a word.

1. When I started to work on getting the sets of letters
   divisible by 19 (As challenged by www.submission.org) I
   did not put the initials in, besides this fact, putting
   the initials in would be a method of making the process
   easier as that would mean I could add letters into the
   sura which have no meaning or context in it. There were
   many times when I needed to add more letters to the sura
   to get the letter count to a multiple of 19, and also
   needed to put these letters in, I could have taken the
   easy way out and put the letters into the sura thus
   completing the challenge by just putting in letters which
   bear no context in the passage. Debate would most likely
   have occured over whether or not initials should be
   included in counts and so on, so I believed that it was
   best to leave them out anyway.

2. I used 19 as a number, however if you wish to use it as
   a word, and count it as such aswell as its letters, then
   remove it from the sura. The other facts referring to the
   importance of 19 in this verse are still relevent as we
   know from 74:29-30 that the number of guardians of Hell is
   19, and adds emphasis to it.

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Features In My Sura Which Are Not In The Claimed Qur'anic Code

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1. Protection of the initials

   The initials in my chapter are protected. The sum of their
   gematrical values is a multiple of 19 squared.
   1444 (19x19x4)

2. Initials more important and mathematically structured

   The occurance of every initial in the chapter is a multiple
   of 19. This is far more impressive than the facts given in
   relation to the Qur'an. Dr. Khalifa used the sums of the
   occurance of the letters most of the time, which means even
   though he may have 5 initials, the probability of adding
   them to 19 is 1 in 19.
   In my chapter however, as indicated, every initial occurs
   a multiple of 19 times. As there are nine initials, the
   probability of this is:
   19^9 = 322,687,697,800

3. Far better protection of the text

   There are a few facts which ensure the protection of my
   sura. (See the section on how the mathematics of my sura
   would have been interpreted)

   1. Letter count is a multiple of 19
   2. Sum of the gematrical values is a multiple of 19
   3. Word count is a multiple of 19
   4. Sum of the gematrical values of the initials means that
      any letter which appears a multiple of 19 times must
      be an initial, and as pointed out in point 1, the
      initials cannot be altered.
   5. Position of the number 19 (or the reference to something
      which is directly related to 19) is protected both by
      the amount of initialed letters used, and also by the
      fact that adding the verse and chapter number gives us a
      multiple of 19.

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                       Conclusion

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I have successfully created a sura which is composed so that
it is protected by a mathematical structure based on the
number 19.

Composing my sura took a little over four hours, this is
including the time to write the software to count the letters,
words, and gematrical value of the sura (Composing the verse
by hand would not be impossible, it would just require keeping
some sort of a tally system, and would take a little longer).

- I have composed a sura which is protected by mathematics.
- I have incorporated many of the components of the structure
    claimed to be in the Qur'an
- I have incorporated many features which are not part of
    the mathematical structure of the Qur'an, and greatly
    increase the protection of the sura.
- The Qur'an fails the submission.org challenge

Can we claim that this whole challenge means nothing because
Muhammad "couldn't have possibly done it 1400 years ago in
the desert"?

[17:88]
"Say, "If all the humans and all the jinns banded together in
 order to produce a Quran like this, they could never produce
 anything like it, no matter how much assistance they lent one
 another." "

God says that we cannot produce a Qur'an, or produce anything
similar to it, even if every human and every jinn helped
eachother. 19-code believers claim that this challenge refers
to the 19-code, and that it is the code which cannot be
replicated.

You be the judge, I have fulfilled the challenge to create
a mathematically protected sura based on the number 19, so
is the 19-code really proof of the divinity of the Qur'an?

I have not produced a Qur'an, but I have produced a sura,
which contains mathematical properties which are the same as
those in the Qur'an, as well as others which the Qur'an
does not contain. So this qualifies sura as atleast "a sura
like it" as far as the 19-code believers and their challenge
are concerned.

Ask yourself the question, if these same properties were
shown to you as part of the Qur'an, would you have accepted
them as a miracle?

God bless,
Ian McNamara.

[2:164]
"In the creation of the heavens and the
 earth, the alternation of night and
 day, the ships that roam the ocean for
 the benefit of the people, the water
 that GOD sends down from the sky to
 revive dead land and to spread in it
 all kinds of creatures, the manipulation
 of the winds, and the clouds that are
 placed between the sky and the earth,
 there are sufficient proofs for people
 who understand."

[20:54]
"Eat and raise your livestock. These
 are sufficient proofs for those who
 possess intelligence."