All started from very annoying argument and resulted to such discovery. Now it over 4 years and had been posted many places if they can find error. Your comments and opinion are welcome.
July 2-04 Bahman Goharzad
Salaam:
this response to your question
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
&sid=9195132&mid=818
Rashad Khalifa revealed *19* secret code for 29 Suras with initials
that the simplest one is this :
During last 25 years many have searched and discovered more
patterns. Some these work were
valuable and some just an imagination.
Last night when I was reading 6:19 to responding to a post
I
got these visions of some links that I let
it with more professional submitters to examine it and complete
it.
My work could not be considered a part of Miracle unless to be
verified by experts but may be a help
for you to rethink.
This work is like translation of verses. I hope my work is right
other way I ask forgiveness from GOD
ALONE.
May Gos Bless You
Lent: coincidence!! This is *6*
by: lent107 (39/M/USA)
3/1/00 6:00 pm
Msg: 837 of 838
<<So what 19*6 = 114 in S 6:19
Where are 19 in the 6 days of the universe creation? I still
did not see that.
This is my last attempt to understand your theory.>>
Salaam:
You
have chosen an specific part of Quran and asking to show link of 6 days
creation to *19*
For
last 26 years there is lot of discoveries and now you pin pointing to 6
days of Creation
Suppose
I do my best and discover something for you to be satisfied . Will be the
end of your doubt or you will reject and then:
[al-An`am 6:35.20] If their rejection gets
to be too much for you, you should know that even if
you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a ladder into the sky, and
produced a miracle
for them (they still would not believe). Had GOD willed, He could have
guided them,
unanimously. Therefore, do not behave like the ignorant ones.
<< I have given you the benefit of the doubt and the chance to
show me what you got. Try a little harder
because these numbers do not mean anything if you cannot convert
them to a plain language that
could be understood by everyone. The Koran is very simple to
read, yet is still very complex to
interpret; an interpreter must be very careful.>>
As you said Quran is easy to read but very complex
to interpret.
We witness exactly same thing with those mathematical
embedded numbers behind every single words and letters.
Easy to understand -Impossible to imitate.
Those numbers are very easy language which
they talk for themselves how is guarding Quran content for any manipulation.
There is a world of GOD greatness that only believer can understand
and see it.
You never can see those greatness unless
avoid Satan to read Miracle without doubt.
As I said my works with 19 is just my personal
vision and could be accepted only if be verified by experts.
You can check it and give your opinion too.
<<Who are your experts, angels from god? Or, are they
devils from hell? Satan was an angel too! Wasn’t he?>>
I do not know. GOD knows. You are right Satan was angel too but rebelled against god and we followed him .
<<What is the message of the 57 Qs in S50 and S42? What
do they tell us that we did not get from
these two surats before you came up with the #19 theory? >>
Surat 50 and 42 have same meaning which have had since creation. Those Q s are embedded inside the word of verses for protection and seal of scripture. Those are the simplest sample. There are another 27 Surat with more initials which you can witness God's Greatness and HIS Knowledge.
I am going to do my home work hard to see if I
can discover or has been discovered *19* linked to 6 days creation.
I hope GOD to give me patience and knowledge
enough to come with some sort of His Signs. Insha Allah.
I will be back as soon as I can do.
May GOD Bless YOU.
Peace. bahman
And
where do you want me
by:
lent107 (39/M/USA)
3/2/00 3:49 pm
Msg: 24 of 24
to get my strength to fight evil?
God forgive you brother. I do forgive you too.
That was the purpose of my question? There are a lot of Muslims
who know a lot more than I do.
May be you are one of them.
Lent
FOR THOSE WHO WANT LEARN MORE ABOUT ISLA
lent107
by: eddie_87_ca
3/2/00 1:02 pm
Msg: 499 of 507
<<You just logged in, and you already bringing all the submitters anti_Islamic garbage here, are you
another clone playing their usual dirty tricks against Islam?
We are familiar with dumbassholes like you, this issue has been
braught here many times, discussed,
and answered, so why don't you do your own research and find
the answers..
Are those two hadiths really sahih Bukhari?....
F.U. hypocrite submitter
fag. >>
I feel sorry for any human with any
belief responding
like above to a human which is searching to find the truth.
I do not know how these people and their supporter can explain such
manner.
Who can believe more that they are believing in QURAN.
There are so many holes in this boat that they never can get to the shore.
They try to paint a crow like a parrot and sell Persian dogs for Persian
cat.
They are cheaters and their hands are in hands of those systems
which we witness the result of their corruption and oppression.
They are angry because can not control the word of truth on this screen.
They are weak and thin everybody is their enemy even a truth seekers
like you that I see your doubt about their lies when you see the fact.
As soon as you cut with those hadith and sunnah you are submitted
to GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE and you are a submitter "MOSLIM NO SECT".
*19* miracle is for proof of Quran and more confidence of MOSLIMS 74:31
vs corrupted religions.
Is up to you. You are the one that make final decision but as an older
one I may remind you do not forget 17:36 as your have done up to now.
I wish you good luck in your search.
I was surfing around and I find you up there in a hard situation
by your life partners. It is not easy to be a submitter "MOSLIM
" no sect. no hadiths no sunnah only you and Quran. There are many that
have kingdom by using those fabricated story about ISLAM and beloved
MOHAMMAD.
What do you think if MOHAMMAD was alive today?
Was he going to accept any of those man made laws rules next to QURAN?
That is your question and other million educated and intellectual young
generation of ISLAM.
You are lucky that they can not touch physically other way you were
finished.
All other submitter have had same problem and difficulty.
Now you are confused. you see the facts and truth and when ask for
right answer according to 17:36 then you receive all kind of ignorance
and ugly post like up there.
You look at us SUBMITTERS and I see your doubt and dust in your eye.
What is our sin that these people call us Kafir?
When we say forget past and mistakes done let us just submit ourselves
only to GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE then they get upset and do something did
to you.
I am working to response to your post for 6 day of Creation . You may
have another look at those pages. I agree with you that is very simple
but no human can imitate it .
I response to you soon.
peace.
*19*
Praise be to God, Lord of Universe.
During my discussion on Yahoo
board a truth seeker with id lent
107 posted this message .
The following is an attempt to demonstrate "6" linked to
Translation: Rashad Khalifa
[al-Mudathir 74:31]
We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we
assigned their
number
(19)
(1)
to disturb the disbelievers,
(2)
to convince the Christians and Jews
(that this is a divine scripture),
(3)
to strengthen the faith of the faithful,
(4)
to remove all traces of doubt
from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5)
to expose those who
harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What
did GOD mean by this allegory?"
GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides
whomever
He wills.
None
knows the soldiers of your Lord except He.
This is a reminder for the people.
|
6:19
20.
21.
|
*19*
To diturbe the disbeleivrs
74:31
During my discussion on Yahoo
board a truth seeker with id lent
107 posted this message .
The following is an attempt to demostrate "6" linked to
*19*
SURA
6:19
=
6x19
=
114
suras of "QURAN"
=
114
times accurance of First
Verse "In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" in Quran
=
[57 times of Q in sura (50)]+[57
times accurance of Q in Sura (42)]
=
57 Gematrical value of
" MAJID"+ 57 times of "QURAN" =
114
=
6x19
=
114
SURA 114:6
=
1+1+4
=
6
=
114/6
=
*19*
Lent107
was not satisfied and asked for solid link of
"6 days Creation" linked to
*19*
Praise be to GOD that helped and I discovered this
what is that?
by: lent107 (39/M/USA)
3/2/00 6:37 pm
Msg: 848 of 848
Salaam:
I see that you are going toplay a game which is old. Refering to your
reasoning and debate which is shown priviousely the readers were expecting
a more valuble response from such smart person like you.
I hope that Iam wrong and if I am saying not truth asking GOD ALONE
to forgive me.
I hope you are not another member of those corrupted religions which
can see how SUBMITTERS are growing upand worried.
I hope yopu are not a feul carrier to make a big fire that you will
burn into that too.
You are
I asked: you where is 19 in the creation of the universe.
You are showing me that you could do some math. A preschool kid
will do better than that. All that
additions and subtractions and divisions do not impress me. Are
you thinking that 19 = 1+9 = 10 =
1+0 = 1 and 19 is 1 and 1 is 19 is math.
Since you did not link 19 to 6 in a very sound and logical way
you have failed yourself and your
theory failed you, you need to have a few more math courses.
Here is the solution to your problem: according to your teachings
19 is 1 and 1 is 19, and that 1 and /
or 19 is your God.
In your theory 6 would be the time (let's say days) that took
19 or 1, which is your God of course,
according to your theory, to make the big bang happen. Do you
know how many dynamite sticks
and matches he needed? He needed 19 sticks and 1 match, a miracle,
praise to 19 or 1 or both. 6
days were necessary for the dust to clear up so he could see.
<<The divine creation is not linked to any satanic number,
it happened in 6 days, that all. >>
Astaghfiru allah
salam
Lent
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*19* Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
The enemies of QURAN can not conceal their innermost taught. Finally
little by little they have to confess to their belief. Here we witness
clone of those famous silent characters.
They see obvious that they are loosing their face, They have no choice
and they cheat which is in their nature. They come as a half friend of
Submitters and Half friend of idol worshipper.
This time we see a new show by those most strongest chains of Idol
worshiper.
We witness their weakness and corruption.
We witness the real face of this SATANIC element by Lent107 which his
manner and style can not be hided from truth seekers that have been around
this board for a while .
this character lent is running in circle in this lobby
and wants to confuse truth seekers with repeating GOD ALONE GOD ALONE GOD
ALONE.......which GOD which BOOK?
His mouth can not open and add QURAN ALONE.
This wonderful intellectual character has made a fool of himself trying
to hide his connection to Hadith and avoiding to say a simple phrase: GOD
ALONE QURAN ALONE.
His knowledge and ability in writing and debate is like a nice piece
of machinery which can be used to produce one of the best product but....
I fell sorry for you. Your pay and position should be very attractive. You
are not here to defend your belief your defending your pocket and bank
account.
MrLent107:
YOU AND NOBODY ELSE IS IN POSITION TO JUDGE ABOUT SUBMITTERS UNLESS
GOD ALONE.
MrLent107:
SIMPLY FOR TRUTH SEEKERS ANNOUNCE YOUR STANDING TOWARD GOD ALONE QURAN
ALONE.
WHY YOU ARE AVOIDING TO SAY QURAN ALONE AFTER GOD ALONE.
YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT QURAN ALONE AND FORGET YOUR LIFE TIME WITH CORRUPTED
SOURCES.
WHICH SCRIPTURE contains YOUR God's
ALONE MESSAGES??
Mr.Lent We are not looking for majority. We are in minority but righteous.
You can reside here and be entertained by your sister's and brother's
posts as far as you like.
We are transferring information and will debate with those that are
truth seeker not those that they are cheaters. We have had enough visitors
about 2000 in few days o:) Allham duli Allah.
We are looking for quality of members not quantity. Have you read
this?
When you get ready to accept GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE visit this place.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/godalonequranalone
We are watching this lobby regularly and informing new visitors of our
new forum board centre periodically.
This place is shining like a crystal and yours and others attack is
polishing it more.
Look how glorious is the place for those that believe in GOD
ALONE, QURAN ALONE.
PS.
My response for your wonderful post about 6 days of creation will
be ready. thank you for your questions which ended to new discoveries of
*19* pattern.
Wasalaam.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your Satanic presence on this board is refining and shining my belief.
I give my all praises to GOD alone Lord of Universe for such gift which
could be a clone of embrem96>>>NuhG>>>andnow Lent107!!!
Further Discoveries.
*19* Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
Salaam: Ids is like a T shirt with some letters and numbers on it.
Ids reflecting your mentality and a sort of your thought and belief.
All my ids have some meaning;bahman19= bahman ia my name avalanche19=bahman19
miror2000 is reminding me fro my small discovery that half of QURAN SURAT
and Verse can be mirrored. They are shown by blue color:
http://home.istar.ca/~tajeri/subjectivQ.html
earthiest=I was atheist for 60 years.
ynineteen= major question that nobody knows why our CREATOR chose 19
as a code for protecting HIS MESSAGES IN QURAN.
By my last id educateme19 I mean it for real and ask people like you
to educate me. This post that I am replying contains questions and subjects
that could lead me to further education in my belief.
Lent:
<<You are a 19*, I still have no understanding why do you use
19,>>
I have answered same question awhile ago and I repeat it here :
In our daily life we use many abbreviations like PS, PBUH, RA, AM,
PM, ASAP, and.......
OUR CREATOR is indicating in the first verse that top og anything is
HIS NAME. I am using *19* for "In the name o..... Besm..... which is proofed
has 19 letters.
Anytime anywhere I see *19* reminds me first verse and my belief "GOD
ALONE, QURAN ALONE."
Another goal of using that is to see if "Disturb"(74:31) disbelievers
and we witness is functioning perfectly regarding those posts.
<< Lent:
I am sunny and a souffy (souffiah). For me
a God is a philosophy and no more, but
Allah is the power and the creation and
the beginning and the end, no God only
Allah. He is everything and he is
everywhere, he is the life, the universe
and so on... no one is willing to
understand that Allah is within you and
me! Khoumainy would have killed me,
or would have put a fatouah on me. >>
Ed:
You have two different definitions of our CREATOR, You say that GOD
is not ALLAH. Whatever you call the final thing as you said He is everything
and is our CREATOR. We have been Created by Him and we are a minor part
of His existence.
Khomaynie made Rushdi a millioner and lot of profit for western companies.
Islam got bad image as a terrorist and specially Iranian.
I do not know too much about Suffy and nothing can replace my belief
GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE.
You challenged me to find that link for "6days creation" which was a succeed to see 7 verses among 6346 verse in different surat could result to 19x19. Your next question you asked how that can happen only in "6" days.
We read in Quran 1000 years of our life is equal to 0ne day of our Creator
so 6 day of His creation is equal to 6000 years.
Y.haridi has found that that fit into a formula which shows speed of
light.
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
&sid=9195132&mid=318
He has discovered this too:
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
&sid=9195132&mid=290
and now I see all those proofs in Miracle and
plus others is not enough for you and ask me to find link of
*19* to rejection of hadith in QURAN. I will try my best and may be I find
something Insha Allah. But what will be next!!
May GOD Bless YOU.
*19*
Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
March 1st 2000 11:43 E.T
Praise be to GOD for His Greatness.
For second night with minimal knowledge could find strings of
*19*
Praise be to GOD for assigning a Angel Or Satan with
id lent107 on Yahoo
message board to ask for proof of " 6 days creation"
linked to
*19*
Miracle.
Praise be to GOD for helping Submitters
Athorized English translation of
Quran by Dr.Rashad Khalifa Messenger of Covenant has been used
in this search.
For last 48 hours a person with lent107 id
asking for proof of creation in 6 days to be linked to 19.
My first attempt resulted in following:
Only in 7 verses (7
universes) 6 days of creation is mentioned as following.
Total of surat and verses= 7+54+10+3+11+7+25+59+32+4+50+38+57+4=
361
=
1919
3+6+1=10
=
1+0
=
1
The first vers 7:54=7+5+4=16=1+6=7
Last verse57:4=5+7+4+=16=1+6=7
7 Universes
7 Verses
If we read first verse 754-574=180=
1+8+0=9
If we deduct surat and verses
as we see:
sura 7-57=-50
verse 54-4=50
-50+50
=
[al-Anbiya' 21:30.]
Do the unbelievers not realize
that the heaven and the earth used to be one solid mass that we exploded
into existence?
And from water we made all
living things.
Would they believe?
chapters 7+10+11+25+32+50+57=192=1+9+2=12
verses=54+3+7+59+4+38+4=169=1+6+9+16=7
12+7=
19=1+9=10
=
1+0
=
1
Now we add up "6 GOD"+"6 day"+7"Universes"
or Verses=
*19*
1+9=
10=
1+0
=
1
Let us add up all numbers in
surat and verses as a single digit:
7+5+4+1+0+3+1+1+7+2+5+5+9+3+2+4+5+0+3+8+5+7+4=
* 91*
a mirror of
* 19 *91=
7x13
then
9+1=10
=
1+0
=
1
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