All started from very annoying argument and resulted to such discovery.  Now it over 4 years and had been posted many places if they can find error. Your comments and opinion are welcome.

July 2-04  Bahman Goharzad


Salaam: this response to your question
  http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
  &sid=9195132&mid=818
  Rashad Khalifa revealed *19* secret code for 29 Suras with initials that the simplest one is this :

  During last 25 years many have searched and discovered more patterns. Some these work were
  valuable and some just an imagination.

  Last night when I was reading 6:19 to responding to a post I got these visions of some links that I let
  it with more professional submitters to examine it and complete it.
  My work could not be considered a part of Miracle unless to be verified by experts but may be a help
  for you to rethink.
  This work is like translation of verses. I hope my work is right other way I ask forgiveness from GOD
  ALONE.

  May Gos Bless You



   Lent: coincidence!! This is *6*
 by: lent107 (39/M/USA)
                                                     3/1/00 6:00 pm
                                                    Msg: 837 of 838
 <<So what 19*6 = 114 in S 6:19
 Where are 19 in the 6 days of the universe creation? I still did not see that.
 This is my last attempt to understand your theory.>>
Salaam:
You have chosen an specific part of Quran and asking to show link of 6 days creation to *19*
For last 26 years there is lot of discoveries and now you pin pointing to 6 days of Creation
Suppose I do my best and discover something for you to be satisfied . Will be the end of your doubt or you will reject and then:

[al-An`am 6:35.20] If their rejection gets to be too much for you, you should know that even if
                 you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a ladder into the sky, and produced a miracle
                 for them (they still would not believe). Had GOD willed, He could have guided them,
                 unanimously. Therefore, do not behave like the ignorant ones.

<< I have given you the benefit of the doubt and the chance to show me what you got. Try a little harder
 because these numbers do not mean anything if you cannot convert them to a plain language that
 could be understood by everyone. The Koran is very simple to read, yet is still very complex to
 interpret; an interpreter must be very careful.>>

As you said Quran is easy to read but very complex to interpret.
We witness exactly same thing with those mathematical embedded numbers behind every single words  and letters.
Easy to understand -Impossible to imitate.
 Those numbers are very easy language which they talk for themselves how is guarding Quran content for any manipulation. There is a world of  GOD greatness that only believer can understand and see it.
 You never can see those greatness unless avoid Satan  to read Miracle without doubt.
As I said my  works with 19 is just my personal vision and could be accepted only if be verified by experts.
You can check it and give your opinion too.

<<Who are your experts, angels from god? Or, are they
 devils from hell? Satan was an angel too! Wasn’t he?>>

I do not know. GOD knows. You are right Satan was angel too but rebelled against god and we followed him .

 <<What is the message of the 57 Qs in S50 and S42? What do they tell us that we did not get from
 these two surats before you came up with the #19 theory? >>

Surat 50 and 42 have same meaning which have had since creation. Those Q s  are  embedded inside  the word of verses for protection and seal of scripture. Those  are the simplest sample.  There are another 27 Surat with more initials which you can witness God's Greatness and HIS Knowledge.

I am going to do my home work hard to see if I can discover or has been discovered  *19* linked to 6 days creation.
I hope GOD to give me patience and knowledge enough to come with some sort of  His Signs. Insha Allah.
I will be back as soon as I  can do.
May GOD Bless YOU.
Peace. bahman

 

And where do you want me
 by: lent107 (39/M/USA)
                                                     3/2/00 3:49 pm
                                                      Msg: 24 of 24
 to get my strength to fight evil?
 God forgive you brother. I do forgive you too.
 That was the purpose of my question? There are a lot of Muslims who know a lot more than I do.
 May be you are one of them.

 Lent

  FOR THOSE WHO WANT LEARN MORE ABOUT ISLA
 

 lent107
 by: eddie_87_ca
                                                     3/2/00 1:02 pm
                                                    Msg: 499 of 507
 <<You just logged in, and you already bringing all the submitters anti_Islamic garbage here, are you
 another clone playing their usual dirty tricks against Islam?
 We are familiar with dumbassholes like you, this issue has been braught here many times, discussed,
 and answered, so why don't you do your own research and find the answers..
 Are those two hadiths really sahih Bukhari?....
 F.U. hypocrite submitter fag. >>

I feel sorry for any human with  any belief responding  like above to a human which is searching to find the truth.
I do not know how these people and their supporter can explain such manner.
Who can believe more that they are believing in QURAN.
There are  so many holes in this boat that they never can get to the shore.
They try to paint a crow like a parrot and sell Persian dogs for Persian cat.
They are cheaters and their  hands are in hands of those systems which we witness the result of their corruption and oppression.
They are angry because can not control the word of truth on this screen.
They are weak and thin everybody is their enemy even a truth seekers like you that I see your doubt about their lies when you see the fact.
As soon as you cut with those hadith and sunnah you are submitted to GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE and you are a submitter "MOSLIM NO SECT".
*19* miracle is for proof of Quran and more confidence of MOSLIMS 74:31 vs corrupted religions.
Is up to you. You are the one that make final decision but as an older one I may remind you do not forget 17:36 as your have done up to now.
I wish you good luck in your search.

I was surfing around and I find you up there in a hard  situation by  your life partners.  It is not easy to be a submitter "MOSLIM " no sect. no hadiths no sunnah only you and Quran. There are  many that have kingdom by using those fabricated  story about ISLAM and beloved MOHAMMAD.
What do you think if MOHAMMAD was alive today?
Was he going to accept any of those man made laws rules next to QURAN?
That is your question and other million educated and intellectual young generation of ISLAM.
You are lucky that they can not touch physically other way you were finished.
All other submitter have had same problem and difficulty.
Now you are confused. you see the facts and truth and when ask for right answer according to 17:36 then you receive all kind of ignorance and ugly post like up there.
You look at us SUBMITTERS and I see your doubt and dust in your eye.
What is our sin that these people call us Kafir?
When we say forget past and mistakes done let us just submit ourselves only to GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE then they get upset and do something did to you.

I am working to response to your post for 6 day of Creation . You may have another look at those pages. I agree with you that is very simple but no human can imitate it .
I response to you soon.
peace.

 

*19*
Praise be to God, Lord of Universe.



During my discussion on Yahoo board  a truth seeker with id lent 107 posted this message .
The following is an attempt to demonstrate "6" linked to
Translation: Rashad Khalifa



 [al-Mudathir 74:31]

We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their
 number
(19)
(1)
to disturb the disbelievers,
(2)
to convince the Christians and Jews
(that this is a divine scripture),
(3)
to strengthen the faith of the faithful,
(4)
to remove all traces of doubt
                 from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5)
to expose those who
                 harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?"
GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever
He wills.
None
knows the soldiers of your Lord except He.
This is a reminder for the people.

"Quran, the Whole Quran, and Nothing But the Quran "

6:19
Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "God's. He is the witness
  between me and you that this Quran* has been inspired to me, to preach it to
you and whomever it reaches. Indeed, you bear witness that there are other
gods beside GOD." Say, "I do not testify as you do; there is only one god,
and I disown your idolatry."

  20.
Those to whom we have given the scripture recognize this as they recognize
their own children. The ones who lose their souls are those who do not believe.

 21. 
Who is more evil than one who lies
about GOD, or rejects His revelations?
The transgressors never succeed.

*19*
To diturbe the disbeleivrs
74:31
During my discussion on Yahoo board  a truth seeker with id lent 107 posted this message .
The following is an attempt to demostrate "6" linked to
*19*

SURA
6:19
=
6x19
=
114
suras of "QURAN"
=
114
times accurance of  First Verse "In the name of GOD, Most Gracious, Most Merciful" in Quran
=
[57 times of Q in sura (50)]+[57 times accurance of Q  in Sura (42)]
=
57  Gematrical value of " MAJID"+ 57 times of "QURAN" =
114
=
6x19
=
114
SURA 114:6
=
1+1+4
=
6
=
114/6
=
*19*



Lent107 was not satisfied and asked for solid link of  "6 days Creation" linked to
*19*
Praise be to GOD that helped and I discovered this




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 what is that?
 by: lent107 (39/M/USA)
                                                     3/2/00 6:37 pm
                                                    Msg: 848 of 848
Salaam:
I see that you are going toplay a game which is old. Refering to your reasoning and debate which is shown priviousely the readers were expecting a more valuble response from such smart person like you.
I hope that Iam wrong and if I am saying not truth asking GOD ALONE to  forgive me.
I hope you are not another member of those corrupted religions which can see how SUBMITTERS are growing upand worried.
I hope yopu are not a feul carrier to make a big fire that you will burn into that too.
You are

 I asked: you where is 19 in the creation of the universe.
 You are showing me that you could do some math. A preschool kid will do better than that. All that
 additions and subtractions and divisions do not impress me. Are you thinking that 19 = 1+9 = 10 =
 1+0 = 1 and 19 is 1 and 1 is 19 is math.
 Since you did not link 19 to 6 in a very sound and logical way you have failed yourself and your
 theory failed you, you need to have a few more math courses.
 Here is the solution to your problem: according to your teachings 19 is 1 and 1 is 19, and that 1 and /
 or 19 is your God.
 In your theory 6 would be the time (let's say days) that took 19 or 1, which is your God of course,
 according to your theory, to make the big bang happen. Do you know how many dynamite sticks
 and matches he needed? He needed 19 sticks and 1 match, a miracle, praise to 19 or 1 or both. 6
 days were necessary for the dust to clear up so he could see.

 <<The divine creation is not linked to any satanic number, it happened in 6 days, that all. >>
 Astaghfiru allah

 salam

 Lent
 

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*19* Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
The enemies of QURAN can not conceal their innermost taught. Finally little by little they have to confess to their belief. Here we witness  clone of those famous silent characters.
They see obvious that they are loosing their face, They have no choice and they cheat which is in their nature. They come as a half friend of Submitters and Half friend of idol worshipper.

This time we see a new show by those most strongest chains of Idol worshiper.
We witness their weakness and corruption.
We witness the real face of this SATANIC element by Lent107 which his manner and style can not be hided from truth seekers that have been around this board for a while .
this character  lent is  running in circle in this lobby and wants to confuse truth seekers with repeating GOD ALONE GOD ALONE GOD ALONE.......which GOD which BOOK?
His mouth can not open and add QURAN ALONE.

This wonderful intellectual character has made a fool of himself trying to hide his connection to Hadith and avoiding to say a simple phrase: GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE.
His knowledge and ability in writing and debate is like a nice piece of machinery which can be used to produce one of the best product but.... I fell sorry for you. Your pay and position should be very attractive. You are not here to defend your belief your defending your pocket and bank account.

MrLent107:
YOU AND NOBODY ELSE IS IN POSITION TO JUDGE ABOUT SUBMITTERS UNLESS GOD ALONE.

MrLent107:
SIMPLY FOR TRUTH SEEKERS ANNOUNCE YOUR STANDING TOWARD GOD ALONE QURAN ALONE.
WHY YOU ARE AVOIDING TO SAY QURAN ALONE AFTER GOD ALONE.
YOU CAN NOT ACCEPT QURAN ALONE AND FORGET YOUR LIFE TIME WITH CORRUPTED SOURCES.

   WHICH  SCRIPTURE  contains   YOUR God's  ALONE  MESSAGES??
Mr.Lent We are not looking for majority. We are in minority but righteous.
You can reside here and be entertained by your sister's and brother's posts as far as you like.
We are transferring information and will debate with those that are truth seeker not those that they are cheaters. We have had enough visitors about 2000 in few days o:) Allham duli Allah.
We are looking for quality of members not quantity. Have you read this?

When you get ready to accept GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE visit this place.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/godalonequranalone
We are watching this lobby regularly and informing new visitors of our new forum board centre periodically.
This place is shining like a crystal and yours and others attack is polishing it more.
Look how glorious is the place  for those that believe in GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE.
PS.
My response for your wonderful post about 6 days of creation will be ready. thank you for your questions which ended to new discoveries of *19* pattern.
Wasalaam.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Your Satanic presence on this board is refining and shining my belief. I give my all praises to GOD alone Lord of Universe for such gift which could be a clone of embrem96>>>NuhG>>>andnow Lent107!!! 

Further Discoveries.
 

*19* Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
Salaam: Ids is like a T shirt with some letters and numbers on it. Ids reflecting your mentality and a sort of your thought and belief.
All my ids have some meaning;bahman19= bahman ia my name avalanche19=bahman19 miror2000 is reminding me fro my small discovery that half of QURAN SURAT and Verse can be mirrored. They are shown by blue color:
http://home.istar.ca/~tajeri/subjectivQ.html
earthiest=I was atheist for 60 years.
ynineteen= major question that nobody knows why our CREATOR chose 19 as a code for protecting HIS MESSAGES IN QURAN.
By my last id educateme19 I mean it for real and ask people like you to educate me. This post that I am replying contains questions and subjects that could lead me to further education in my belief.
Lent:
<<You are a 19*, I still have no understanding why do you use 19,>>

I have answered same question awhile ago and I repeat it here :
In our daily life we use many abbreviations like PS, PBUH, RA, AM, PM, ASAP, and.......
OUR CREATOR is indicating in the first verse that top og anything is HIS NAME. I am using *19* for "In the name o..... Besm..... which is proofed has 19 letters.
Anytime anywhere I see *19* reminds me first verse and my belief "GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE."
Another goal of using that is to see if  "Disturb"(74:31) disbelievers and we witness is functioning perfectly regarding those posts.

<< Lent:
I am sunny and a souffy (souffiah). For me
                                                    a God is a philosophy and no more, but
                                                    Allah is the power and the creation and
                                                    the beginning and the end, no God only
                                                    Allah. He is everything and he is
                                                    everywhere, he is the life, the universe
                                                    and so on... no one is willing to
                                                    understand that Allah is within you and
                                                    me! Khoumainy would have killed me,
                                                    or would have put a fatouah on me. >>
Ed:

You have two different definitions of our CREATOR, You say that GOD is not ALLAH. Whatever you call the final thing as you said He is everything and is our CREATOR. We have been Created by Him and we are a minor part of His existence.
Khomaynie made Rushdi a millioner and lot of profit for western companies. Islam got bad image as a terrorist and specially Iranian.

I do not know too much about Suffy and nothing can replace my belief GOD ALONE, QURAN ALONE.
 

You challenged me to find that link for  "6days creation" which was a succeed to  see 7 verses among 6346 verse in different surat could result to 19x19. Your next question  you asked how that can happen only in "6" days.

We read in Quran 1000 years of our life is equal to 0ne day of our Creator
so 6 day of His creation is equal to 6000 years.
Y.haridi has found that that fit into a formula which shows speed of light.
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
  &sid=9195132&mid=318
He has discovered this too:
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=9195132&tid=produceonesuralikethese
  &sid=9195132&mid=290
 and now I see all those proofs in Miracle and
plus  others is not enough for you and ask me to find link of *19* to rejection of hadith in QURAN. I will try my best and may be I find something Insha Allah. But what will be next!!
May GOD Bless YOU.

*19*
Praise be to GOD, Lord of Universe.
March 1st  2000   11:43 E.T
Praise be to GOD for His Greatness.
For second night with minimal knowledge could find strings of


 

*19*
Praise be to GOD for assigning a Angel Or Satan with id lent107 on Yahoo message board to ask for proof of " 6 days creation" linked to
*19*
Miracle.

Praise be to GOD for helping Submitters
 

Athorized English translation of Quran by Dr.Rashad Khalifa  Messenger of Covenant has been used in this search.
This portion can not be considered a part of miracle unless to be examined by experts.

For last 48 hours a person with lent107 id asking for proof of creation in 6 days to be linked to 19.
My first attempt resulted in following:
Only  in 7 verses (7 universes) 6 days of creation is mentioned as following.
 

Total of surat and verses= 7+54+10+3+11+7+25+59+32+4+50+38+57+4=
361
=
19*19
3+6+1=10
=
1+0
=
1
The first vers 7:54=7+5+4=16=1+6=7
Last verse57:4=5+7+4+=16=1+6=7
7 Universes
7 Verses

If we read first verse 754-574=180= 1+8+0=9
If we deduct surat and verses as we see:
sura 7-57=-50
verse 54-4=50
 -50+50
=
0

 [al-Anbiya' 21:30.]
Do the unbelievers not realize that the heaven and the earth used to be one solid mass  that we exploded into existence?
And from water we made all living things.
Would they believe?

 chapters 7+10+11+25+32+50+57=192=1+9+2=12
verses=54+3+7+59+4+38+4=169=1+6+9+16=7
12+7=
19=1+9=10
=
1+0
=
1
Now we add up "6 GOD"+"6 day"+7"Universes" or Verses=
*19*
1+9=
10=
1+0
=
1
Let us add up all numbers in surat and verses as a single digit:
7+5+4+1+0+3+1+1+7+2+5+5+9+3+2+4+5+0+3+8+5+7+4=
* 91*
a mirror of
* 19 *91=

7x13
then
9+1=10
=
1+0
=
1


7

54

Your Lord is the one GOD, who created the heavens and the earth in six days,
  then assumed all authority. The night overtakes the day, as it pursues it persistently, and the sun,  the moon, and the stars are committed to serve by His command. Absolutely, He controls all  creation and all commands. Most Exalted is GOD, Lord of the universe.

10

3

 Your only Lord is GOD; the One who created the heavens and the earth in six  days, then assumed all authority. He controls all matters. There is no intercessor, except in accordance with His will. Such is GOD your Lord. You shall worship Him. Would you not take   heed?

11

7

 He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days - and His (earthly)
domain was completely covered with water - in order to test you, to distinguish those among you who work righteousness. Yet, when you say, "You will be resurrected after death," those
      who disbelieve would say, "This is clearly witchcraft."

25

59

  He is the One who created the heavens and the earth, and everything
   between them, in six days, then assumed all authority. The Most Gracious; ask about Him those    who are well founded in knowledge.

32

4

GOD is the One who created the heavens and the earth, and everything
  between them in six days, then assumed all authority. You have none beside Him as Lord, nor  do you have an intercessor. Would you not take heed?

50

38

 We have created the heavens and the earth, and everything between them in six days,
and no fatigue touched us.

57

4

 He is the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then  assumed all authority. He knows everything that enters into the earth, and everything that comes  out of it, and everything that comes down from the sky, and everything that climbs into it. He is  with you wherever you may be. GOD is Seer of everything you do.

 192

 169

Total = 361= 19x19       1+9+2+1+6+9=28=2+8=10=1+0=1


Updated March 2nd-2000


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